[Update June 23, 2024. Earlier this month, anger and distrust reigned as Adobe’s Terms of Use were discovered to be far more intrusive than most of us expected. Adobe reacted to the outrage by revising and clarifying their Terms of Use. Here are the highlights, along with a link.
Here’s the link to their revised Terms of Use. Note that Adobe now provides summaries of what the legal language means. Make a special point to check out sections 2.2 and 4.
(The following was written June 8, 2024.)
Last week, news broke of a change to Adobe’s Terms and Conditions for all Creative Cloud applications. These Terms can not be bypassed – you either accept them or you can’t use any Creative Cloud apps.
First reported by a security blogger on Tuesday, I read it about last Thursday in this AppleInsider article.
NOTE: You can also read about it here in this FastCompany article
The key points are:
As you can imagine, giving Adobe unlimited permission to do anything they want with your files, media or projects scared a lot of people due to its perceived overwhelming invasiveness.
Another big concern is preventing your creative work from training AI systems without your permission or compensation. This behavior reminds me of the typical Silicon Valley mindset of “break the rules now, ask forgiveness later.” All too often, later never comes.
Lawsuits alleging creative theft are already in progress against ChatGPT, MidJourney, and Stability. And Meta is a privacy-invasion case study all on its own.
As the firestorm continued to grow, Adobe remained silent for three days, then issued the following statement, as reported in AppleInsider.
“Adobe accesses user content for a number of reasons, including the ability to deliver some of our most innovative cloud-based features, such as Photoshop Neural Filters and Remove Background in Adobe Express, as well as to take action against prohibited content,” the company said at the time. “Adobe does not access, view or listen to content that is stored locally on any user’s device.”
While helpful, this didn’t clear up the confusion – especially regarding how to protect projects covered by NDA statements or whether a user’s creative content is training AI.
24 hours later, Adobe released another statement, making the following points:
WHAT I DID
I sent an email to my contacts at Adobe on Thursday night asking:
So far I haven’t had a response. I’ll update this article if I do.
WHAT SHOULD YOU DO
Personally, I believe that any projects created and stored locally on your system are not accessible to Adobe. So any projects that you need to keep private MUST be stored locally. This also means that any collaborative projects or libraries must be stored on local servers, not cloud servers.
However, you should also assume that any libraries, files, media or projects stored in the Creative Cloud – or, really, any Cloud service – are not private and will be shared with people you don’t know for purposes that are never revealed. This includes training AI models with your data.
At this point, we are waiting for Adobe to clarify what exactly they are doing with our data and what we can do – if anything – to prevent it.
39 Responses to Is Adobe Accessing Your Private Data? [u]
Newer Comments →There are so many options that do NOT include anything related to horrible Adobe that anyone who uses the Adobe “services” gets whatever they allow by this dubious company. I don’t understand why anyone uses Adobe for anything important or of value.
Thank you for informing us, Larry! I use Adobe locally only but don’t like these terms of service one bit!
I can’t even legally click that agreement, given that I have NDA agreements with several clients, including some medical clients where medical privacy issues would be involved in media for individual care plans.
The total brain dead greed and evil of Adobe here is astounding. It’s as if they don’t even know, respect, or care about their end users at all. Ideally the person responsible for that wording in the EULA would be fired and never work in corporate legal again.
Merrick:
The way they force you to agree makes no sense. Something needs to change. Us or them.
Larry
I think Adobe has made clear what it already does. Even for content stored locally, when you type a generative prompt, your data is leaked for adobe. AI features made privacy and copyrights a messy!
Rogelio:
Messy is the perfect word.
Larry
The key is keeping your materials on local drives and servers that are under your control. The only Cloud based servers that might be considered safe would possibly be iCloud. I suppose you could encrypt them but that would only work if you only stored versions in the Cloud. Anything that is actually processed in the Cloud – especially Adobe’s Cloud – should be a major concern.
And even if you store everything locally, if you run into a problem and, in an effort to fix the issue, you allow Adobe to remotely access and control your computer, your materials may be copied to their computers and servers without you having a say so.
So what is the alternative to Adobe Creative Cloud?
stephen
Stephen:
DaVinci Resolve – and Blackmagic Cloud – and Final Cut Pro.
Larry
This is yet anther glaring example of the psychotic, greed-driven corporate mentality that, if left unchecked, will destroy our culture. It has already inflicted massive harm on the most vulnerable among us and clearly won’t stop there. We’re next.
Unfortunately, I have underway a few very large, multi-year projects that will be massively difficult to transition to another platform, but I may have no choice in the matter, even though I don’t store material on the cloud.
Sigh….
Michael:
If you don’t store materials on Adobe Creative Cloud – you are OK … for now. Finish your projects.
Larry
This will give Adobe’s competitors an advantage in marketing. I walked away from all things Adobe once they went to the subscription model, and while there are some great apps I would like to use for background removal and keying or rotoscoping, they were dead to me for that subscription model reason already.
This invasive terms and conditions requirement is there simply to allow Adobe to scrape your data. The security excuse is just that: an excuse.
I want to buy the software and own it. Not be owned by it. And what I do with it is my business. I don’t care how tempting they make it. Adobe won’t see another dime from me.
My concern is that storing assets locally offers only limited protection if you workflow includes using Frame.io–an Adobe company–to transfer files or upload outputs for review.
Mike:
An excellent point. I’m not sure about Frame.io’s privacy protections.
Larry
Thanks for following up on this Larry – as an editor working on long form documentary, most often with Premiere,
I really need to be able to give my clients a full-some answer when the question of ownership comes up! As I don’t see jumping over to Avid or Resolve this morning as a desirable solution! (which, with a bunch of work, is possible right?).
Good luck with this and thanks again!
Graham:
I’m not sure about Frame.io. But, any files stored locally or on local servers are safe.
Larry